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- From: Eugene Tan <insights@pobox.org.sg>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.newton.misc
- Subject: Re: Users are selfish Was Re: crippled software
- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:59:15 +0800
- Organization: INSIGHTS Innovatively Integrated
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- Gopi D Flaherty wrote:
- >
- > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.newton.misc: 14-Mar-96 Re: Users are
- > selfish Was R.. by Per Jacobsen@inet.uni-c.
- > > You mean this would hold up in your courts? I've always thought it
- > > rubbish, it's like me walking up to you and say "If you blink you own me
- > > 10 dollars", naturally that doesn't work. It takes two parties to make a
- > > deal, and just because you write in the docs "If you start the program" i
- > > wouldn't call that an agreement, i hope the law doesn't either.
-
- <stuff deleted>
- > Simply being able to obtain a copy of a program doesn't give you a right
- > to use it- if I copy a commercial program, I don't have a right to use
- > it. Why should I have a right to a shwareware program unless I am
- > specifically given the right to use it from the author?
-
- Don't know how the law works over there, but we're getting pretty
- legal here, not principles.
-
- I think the issue is enforcement. If the license says USE, then the
- plantiff/author would have the burden of proof the show that it was
- being used; the mere presence of the copy on the machine may not be
- enuf to qualify as usage. That's why in copyright/piracy issues
- (over here), the investigators look for installed copies on the PCs,
- coz the license agreement specifies installed copy rather than usage.
-
- Sometimes, the license agreement might try to be a little more watertight,
- like if you start the program / open the seal. I'm not sure how this
- would be enforced though it usually means you're not entitled to a
- refund if you've already paid money for it. Of course if you start the
- program and find it's quite different from the claims advert, you could
- even start another action on this.
-
- Another 2 ÑÑ
- Eugene Tan
-